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My Replication of Stan's Plate Design

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:49 am
by h2oadmin
The more one researches Meyer's technology, the more interesting and fascinating it becomes.

This is the 8XA circuit and Stan's Electrical Polarization Process box, but with a water cell consisting of a tube, and not plates as he used.
The electronics are as stated in the patent.
The resonant choke specs are as stated in the photo.
This circuit, although it is a 'proof of concept' circuit, works beautifully and produces much more gas than brute-force cells used in the past.
The cell generates no heat, as Stan promised.
The results below were taken with .5 amp current and around 50V AC input to the circuit.
It is evident that the incoming AC frequency, 60Hz, is doubled at the cell (roughly 120Hz), as Stan suggests.
The water being used is 50% distilled water, 50% well water - no additives.
Stan's dream is becoming a reality - one step at a time.
Keep pressing forward everyone!

Re: My Replication of Stan's Plate Design

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:49 am
by cruiseonwater
Wow! great work. I am working on the rotary setup first. cheers!

Re: My Replication of Stan's Plate Design

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:50 am
by h2oadmin
Here is the circuit for the unit:

Re: My Replication of Stan's Plate Design

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:54 am
by h2oadmin
Yes, there is no 'resonance' with this setup (it was a demo box used by Stan to demonstrate the amp inhibiting setup),
but you will notice that the longer you use your pipe or plates with this setup, the more gas they produce - even when you lower the amplitude.
This box was a replacement (an improvement), or solid-state version, of his original rotary vic setup with he alternator.
Some people are using this in their cars for the HHO generation, in combination with other devices.
It is a great starting point before moving on to more advanced Meyer designs.
As you may have discovered, the unit was designed fore use with Stan's variable spacing plate cell, but it will also power a tube cell.
Here are some more documents on Stan's Electrical Polarization Process (8XA) unit:

Re: My Replication of Stan's Plate Design

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:56 am
by HurstOlds
Thanks for approving me to this site! I've been waiting to get access to ask you some questions about your setup

Can you provide more information about how to wind the coil for the 8XA setup? I think you said that it's bifilar. Are you using 18 gauge, 4 rows with 14 turns per row?

I'm thinking about getting some EC52 cores, kits cost like $5 each.

Did you measure your uH for your coil?

Re: My Replication of Stan's Plate Design

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:57 am
by h2oadmin
Yes, welcome to the forum!
The coil was bifilar (two wires wrapped at same time, beside each other).
The gauge I used was 134 Turns of 22AWG magnet wire, but 18 is probably better, only because it can handle more current.
I wound mine all at once, but Stan's oriignal was wound in rows, with cardboard from cereal boxes in between each.
If you look at the old style HV transformers in tv's, sometimes you will see the windings separated like this also.
The EC52 cores will work great - I simply used a ferrite core from an old TV.

134 Turns of AWG22 magnet wire
L1 = 768uH, .5ohms
L2 = 760.2uH, .5ohms

Without ferrite core:
L1= 283.8uH
L2 = 281.1uH

If you look at the documentation, you will see that Stan says the longer the coil length (choke), the higher voltage will be applied to the cell.

Re: My Replication of Stan's Plate Design

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:58 am
by HurstOlds
Thanks for the help, I will be referring back to this once I get my setup built.

Re: My Replication of Stan's Plate Design

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:59 am
by crn
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The results below were taken with .5 amp current and around 50V AC input to the circuit.

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What is the current draw during operation on the AC line side?

-Chris

Re: My Replication of Stan's Plate Design

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:59 am
by h2oadmin
crn:

The current draw is approx .25amp at 120VAC, so that is about 30 Watts, with the cell amperage at .5 amp (measured between the cell and the circuit).

Re: My Replication of Stan's Plate Design

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:59 am
by h2oadmin
crn:

The current draw is approx .25amp at 120VAC, so that is about 30 Watts, with the cell amperage at .5 amp (measured between the cell and the circuit).